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Re: Boxset Overview
« Reply #20 on Sept 1, 2006, 1:11pm »
actually, i don't think that's the issue of this thread.

so, for box set overview, i can see how removing the overview paragraph might confuse some. Perhaps:

"Follow regular Overview rules for box sets."

as for including film titles, i don't have an objection to allowing a list (i was just stating the info is available elsewhere), as long as it is a list and not detailed synopses.

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« Reply #21 on Sept 1, 2006, 3:12pm »

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Inconsistencies handling one Boxset one and another Boxset a different way, they ALL get handled the same way for Online purposes. And that includes children.


I think you missed the point...

He is suggesting that ALL Box Sets be changed in the same manner. This would remove any possible inconsistencies. Problem solved. [image]


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Those that do not wish to use the Parent/Child system are deviating from the system, there is nothing wrong with that, after all that is what the local is all about, but that means they may be inconvenienced.


This is the real issue. Who do we inconvenience more? The people who like the current Box Set system or the ones that don't.

It has alway been my opinion that it is easier to remove data than it is to add it. However, in this case, the data isn't gone...it is just in a different place. If someone wants all the data in the parent profile, all they have to do is copy it from the child profiles.

Inconvenient, yes. But not as inconvenient as having to gather the data from scratch.


Problem NOT solved, Unicus. The whole reason that this was done to Boxsets is because oft times the data within the Boxset varies from title from title in every area. Thus you cannot apply a Rule to what data to include in the Boxset data. One FF, one is 1.85 and another 2.35, same is true of features and Audio. So as I said if the user wishes to operate outside of the system then he must keep his data locally. Problem now solved.

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Re: Boxset Overview
« Reply #22 on Sept 1, 2006, 3:37pm »

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Problem NOT solved, Unicus. The whole reason that this was done to Boxsets is because oft times the data within the Boxset varies from title from title in every area. Thus you cannot apply a Rule to what data to include in the Boxset data. One FF, one is 1.85 and another 2.35, same is true of features and Audio. So as I said if the user wishes to operate outside of the system then he must keep his data locally. Problem now solved.

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You really need to work on your reading comprehension. [image] I quoted a specific part of you post for a reason. ;)

fredlooks said, "Could you expand a little on the inconsistancies that you feel this suggestion is likely to introduce?"

You replied with, "Inconsistencies handling one Boxset one and another Boxset a different way, they ALL get handled the same way for Online purposes. And that includes children."

Rho's original suggestion was that ALL sets should be handled the way he suggested. If ALL sets are handled that way, then there is no inconsistency.

That is what I was talking about when I said, "Problem solved."

I said NOTHING about the problem of dealing with data that is inconsistent from DVD to DVD within a Box Set. I don't know how you even got there. [image]


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actually, i don't think that's the issue of this thread.


You are correct. I was simply responding to the issue that Rho brought up. Sorry for going off-topic. [image]
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Re: Boxset Overview
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This is the real issue. Who do we inconvenience more? The people who like the current Box Set system or the ones that don't.

It has alway been my opinion that it is easier to remove data than it is to add it. However, in this case, the data isn't gone...it is just in a different place. If someone wants all the data in the parent profile, all they have to do is copy it from the child profiles.

Inconvenient, yes. But not as inconvenient as having to gather the data from scratch.


In order to do what you are suggesting, they would have to download the child profiles first (profiles that they do not want in the first place), then copy any information by scouring through each child profile, copy the data to the boxset profile then delete the child profiles again.

This sounds a lot more inconvenient than deleting unwanted info from the boxset profile.
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Re: Boxset Overview
« Reply #24 on Oct 12, 2006, 5:08pm »
I am unable to contribute a boxset that lacks the video component. How are others getting around this?
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« Reply #25 on Oct 12, 2006, 11:58pm »
You HAVE to, for now Contribute something to video, Gard. So for Boxsets make the data relatively generic, check only Widescreen and/or FF or P&S as appropriate. Don't check the anamorphic box or any of the AR's.

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« Reply #26 on Oct 14, 2006, 10:18pm »

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I am unable to contribute a boxset that lacks the video component. How are others getting around this?

Video was added to the "not included on the box set profile" list, as at the time the Rules revision was written, it was expected to go along with a program change for the final release of 2.5. (...yes, we had that information directly from IVS.)
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"Box Sets" Containing More Than One Film

Reminder: Standard rules still apply.

The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film. The main examples are:

Create individual profiles for each movie in these Box Sets. Use individual UPCs if they are available or use Disc ID (read on a DVD-ROM) if not. Create each of these individual profiles in line with the standard Contribution Rules with one exception - Cover Images. If a film is individually packaged, use the cover images from that packaging. If the film doesn't have its own cover images, use the images from the parent set.

If a Box Set contains discs of Bonus Material for individual films, do not create separate profiles for these discs. Add the information to the individual film's profile as normal for a single film 2-Disc set containing a single film. If there is a disc of Bonus Material for all films included in the Box-set, create a separate profile for this disc.

For the main Box-set profile, add the individual profiles via the "Box sSet" button. The following Cclarifications to the standard Rules need to be used:

Section Clarification / Adjustment to Rules
Title

The title for a Box Set should be the title listed on the front cover, for example Alien Quadrilogy
Production Year

Production Year for a Box Set should be the year of the earliest feature release in the setLeave the Production Year for a Box Set empty.
Running Time

Use the combined running time of all the films in the Box Set; do not include running time of any extra features.
Rating

If the Box Set has a rating, use it in the profile. If it does not, use NR as the rating. Exception:If any disc in the set is rated Adult, list the set as AdultUse the most restrictive rating (if any) of the boxset's contents for the rating of the boxset itself.
Disc IDs

Do not include any Disc IDs on the main profile - these are listed on each of the individual profiles.
Easter Eggs

Do not include any Easter Eggs on the main profile - Easter Eggs will be handled withinthese are listed on each of the individual profiles.
Credits

Do not use credits for the box set - Credits will be listed onthese are listed on each of the individual profiles. For additional information on handling of TV Series type releases see the TV series section.
Overview

If the box set cover contains a listing of contents with brief descriptions of each, enter it directly into the Overview field. If there is no overview on the cover, an overview from an included booklet may be substituted. Otherwise, enter an itemized listing of the contents only, without descriptions.

In addition to the above, the following are not included on the box set profile: Subtitles, Audio, Video & Disc Features. List them with the individual profiles.

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