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What to Contribute change
« Thread Started on Oct 2, 2006, 6:20am »
------ New proposal ------
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Contribute to the main online database only information about legal, professionally produced and sold DVDs. Do not contribute:
  • "Bootleg" or other illegal media.
  • Privately created media.
  • Promotional screeners (even if the content is that which might appear on a retail DVD - e.g. a TeleVision (TV) show or a film).

Media
Contribute only the following, to the main online database:
  • DVD-Video DVD: Contribute only DVD-Video information to the main online database.
    • Exception: Please, refer to the Titles section in these rules on how to process the following formats: MiniDVD, High-Density Digital Versatile Disc (HD-DVD) and Blu-ray.


Barcode systems
There are multiple different barcode systems, Universal Product Code (UPC), European Article Number (EAN), to mention a few that is relevant to DVD Profiler and DVD-Video DVDs. DVD Profiler uses only one acronym for all of them and its purpose; UPC.

DVD Profiler and UPC field format
DVD Profiler allows you to enter the entire number sequence of the barcode into its UPC field, but if the profile is to be contributed to the main online database, the following digit(s) must be dropped:
  • UPC-A (12 digits): The first and the last digit must be dropped.
  • EAN-13: The first digit must be dropped, e.g. "7390987654321" -> "390987-654321".
Please, refer to the highlighted sections of the barcode number sequence in the below image:
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Make sure the UPC is displayed in the profile in this format before it is contributed! Do not contribute profiles with "made up" or otherwise inaccurate UPC.

How to contribute a DVD-Video DVD with a:DVD identification methods
The preferred method to add a DVD to a collection, and eventually contribute it, is to use the "Add By UPC" method within DVD Profiler.
  • Exception: If the DVD does not have a barcode on the cover use the "Add By Disc ID" method within DVD Profiler.

Localities and languages
Make sure that the locality selected is correct for the release. In your profile, use the language of the locality for the release. Do not use mixed languages.

If the locality in your local database is incorrect, and the correct one is not in the main online database, you can change the locality of an existing profile for the same title. To do this, select DVD -> Change Locality from DVD Profiler's main menu.

Correction to an existing profile
Make sure you validate all information in the profile before you contribute the profile to the main online database. Do not make a correction to an existing profile (in the main online database) based on the content of:
  • a third party database,
  • the specifications printed on the cover.

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All (W.I.P) was removed. Previous question was worked in.

Please, if you like, dislike, find composition errors, spelling errors, anything, do not hesitate to post, mkay? :)
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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #1 on Oct 2, 2006, 8:24pm »
Interesting and well thought out.

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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #2 on Oct 2, 2006, 11:32pm »
Hmmm, sorry to bother, but what does the W.I.P. stand for...?
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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #3 on Oct 3, 2006, 5:10am »
Skip: Thank you!

ya_shin: W.I.P. stands for Work In Progress. :)
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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #4 on Oct 3, 2006, 2:04pm »

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ya_shin: W.I.P. stands for Work In Progress. :)

Ahhhhh... It all becomes clear. :D

I like what you've done a great deal xyrano, and can tell that you have put a lot of thought into this!

The only thing I am not keen on is the 'refer to Titles' bit as it seems a little long winded and hard to read. I don't know if it's possible but maybe it would be better to hyperlink to the page instead and put 'see here' instead? A question for someone else to answer probably. :-X

It's only a small thing and personal preference really but I think it looks tidier.

Other than that I don't see that much wrong with it. IMO good job! [image]
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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #5 on Oct 3, 2006, 3:32pm »

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ya_shin: W.I.P. stands for Work In Progress. :)

Ahhhhh... It all becomes clear. :D

I like what you've done a great deal xyrano, and can tell that you have put a lot of thought into this!

The only thing I am not keen on is the 'refer to Titles' bit as it seems a little long winded and hard to read. I don't know if it's possible but maybe it would be better to hyperlink to the page instead and put 'see here' instead? A question for someone else to answer probably. :-X

It's only a small thing and personal preference really but I think it looks tidier.

Other than that I don't see that much wrong with it. IMO good job! [image]

Yes I have, lol, ever since I read the first version of the rules I've been wanting to "correct them", so to speak. Needless to say, I am very happy that I can do it now. :D

I removed ", Description sub-section (second paragraph)" from the sentence, and I agree, it looks much better now. Thank you for pointing that out. :) What do you think, is it better now?

I must admit that I have not given "internal linking" any though, but as you say, it's a question better suited for someone else. :-/

Again, thanks for the feedback!
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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #6 on Oct 4, 2006, 2:06pm »

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What do you think, is it better now?


Works for me [image]
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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #7 on Oct 8, 2006, 6:06am »
Proposal modified.

I added:
How to contribute a DVD-Video DVD with a:
  • UPC-E (8 digits) barcode? Please, see the "Unusual short (but legal) UPC's" thread at the IVS Forum.
  • EAN-13 (3000000-??????) barcode? Please, see the "Umbrella Entertainment" thread at the IVS Forum.

Was that okay? [image]


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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #8 on Oct 12, 2006, 4:50pm »
Under Promotional Screeners, you might want to specify Promotional Screeners other than actual retail product. I get plenty of promotional review copies that are in fact actual retail product.

Of course, how anyone would know I was contributing such an item other than me, I am not sure, so maybe it doesn't need clarification.
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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #9 on Oct 23, 2006, 2:53pm »

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Under Promotional Screeners, you might want to specify Promotional Screeners other than actual retail product. I get plenty of promotional review copies that are in fact actual retail product.

Of course, how anyone would know I was contributing such an item other than me, I am not sure, so maybe it doesn't need clarification.

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Now I'm confused. I thought 'Promotional screeners' was an undesirable item to contribute to the main online database. I even get that thought from reading the rule below.

Also, 'other than actual retail product (even if the content is that which might appear on a retail DVD...)' doesn't make sense (or maybe I just don't understand what I read here). Maybe I don't need to understand it.

In any case... just to be clear. Do you mean to have the bullit changed exactly like this?:
    Do not contribute:
  • Promotional screeners other than actual retail product (even if the content is that which might appear on a retail DVD - e.g. a TeleVision (TV) show or a film).
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Personally, I would not change it. But, as you can see, I'm in deep water here. In other words, I'll go with the flow on this one.

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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #10 on Oct 24, 2006, 12:30am »
I...don't...think...so.

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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #11 on Oct 28, 2006, 3:19pm »

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where you put...

UPC-A (12 digits): If the barcode number sequence first digit is 0 (zero) then the first and the last digit must be dropped.

It don't matter if the first digit is Zero... you always drop the first and last digit of the UPC.

I know more times then not it is starting with zero... but I just went up to my collection and grabbed a random 6 (my handful)... and out of that 6... 4 started with zero... but the other 2 started with either 6 or 7 These still need to be dropped down to the middle 10 digits.

The sentence was added after I saw a post on the IVS forum, posted by a regular user, however, after hours of searching the IVS forum's without finding the said post again (as I had hoped), I have nothing to back this particular sentence formulation. So, I'm gonna "back off" and go with your suggestion (which obviously makes sense):

UPC-A (12 digits): The first and the last digit must be dropped.
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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #12 on Oct 28, 2006, 3:28pm »
Correct, xyrano. The Rules respon to the program and the programmer, not the other way around.;). He Set the UPC standard years ago and I consider it highly unlikey that he will change it, for 300,000 plus titles, I don't even want to think about it.:o
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Re: What to Contribute change
« Reply #13 on Oct 28, 2006, 3:42pm »
Right...
That is how I remember it too... this being something that Ken himself set up... not something that the ppl that wrote the rules decided.
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« Reply #14 on Oct 28, 2006, 3:50pm »
Okay, so the proposal is all good now, right?
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What to Contribute

Contribute only the following items to the main database:

TContribute to the main database onlyshould contain information about legal, professionally produced discs. Do not contribute "bootleg", other illegal DVDs, or privately created DVDs, or promotional screeners even though the content may be film or TVif the content is that which might appear on a retail DVD - e.g. a TV show or a film.

When creating a new profile for contribution, the preferred method is to create from the UPC number. The UPC (called EAN in some countries) is the number under the barcode on the DVD's case. DVD Profiler does not use the UPC check digits for its purposes; the parts to use are highlighted in the images below:

Example of a UPC and an EAN. The numbers directly under the barcode have been highlighted.

When contributing a title by UPC, make sure the UPC is entered in this format. Do not contribute titles with "made up" or otherwise inaccurate UPCs. If a title does not have a UPC, then add the title by Disc ID, using your DVD-ROM drive.

Make sure that the locality selected is correct for the release. In your profile, use the language of the locality for the release. Do not use mixed languages.

If the locality in your database is incorrect, and the correct one is not in the main database, you can change the locality of an existing profile for the same title. To do this, select DVD->Change Locality from DVD Profiler's main menu. Make sure you validate all information in the profile (including the UPC) before contributing the new locality to the main database.

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